{"id":959,"date":"2019-04-19T13:54:43","date_gmt":"2019-04-19T18:54:43","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogofnotesite.wpengine.com\/?p=959"},"modified":"2019-07-03T23:28:27","modified_gmt":"2019-07-04T04:28:27","slug":"grounding-originalism-a-panel-discussion-moving-from-legal-theory-to-legal-practice","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.northwesternlaw.review\/?p=959","title":{"rendered":"Grounding Originalism: A Panel Discussion Moving from Legal Theory to Legal Practice"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"_2zEKz alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/images.unsplash.com\/photo-1515040242872-08257d6d08c2?ixlib=rb-1.2.1&amp;ixid=eyJhcHBfaWQiOjEyMDd9&amp;auto=format&amp;fit=crop&amp;w=1000&amp;q=80\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 100vw, (max-width: 532px) 500px, (max-height: 509px) 500px, (min-aspect-ratio: 5757\/3843) calc((calc(100vh - 175px)) * 1.49805), calc(100vw - 32px)\" 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The people text\" width=\"400\" height=\"267\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #999999;\"><em>Photo by <a style=\"color: #999999;\" href=\"https:\/\/unsplash.com\/photos\/7rehTDIfR8o?utm_source=unsplash&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_content=creditCopyText\">Anthony Garand<\/a> on <a style=\"color: #999999;\" href=\"https:\/\/unsplash.com\/search\/photos\/law?utm_source=unsplash&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_content=creditCopyText\">Unsplash<\/a><\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Is originalism correct? What might make it so? <em>Grounding Originalism<\/em>, a forthcoming Essay by Professors <a href=\"https:\/\/www.law.uchicago.edu\/faculty\/baude\">William Baude<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/law.duke.edu\/fac\/sachs\/\">Stephen E. Sachs<\/a>, tackles these questions by moving from legal theory to legal empirics in an effort to provide a coherent story of our law.<\/p>\n<p>On Friday afternoon, November 5, 2018, Professors Baude and Sachs were joined by Professor\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.sandiego.edu\/law\/centers\/csco\/directory\/biography.php?profile_id=2659\">Michael Ramsey<\/a> in a panel discussion about Baude and Sachs\u2019s piece, <em>Grounding Originalism<\/em>. This panel was part of <em>Northwestern University Law Review\u00a0<\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.northwesternlawreview.org\/symposium\">Symposium<\/a>, <em>Originalism 3.0<\/em>, which focused on originalism\u2019s latest scholarly developments.<\/p>\n<p>As a group, the scholars at this year\u2019s symposium explored originalism by offering new taxonomies, theories, and critiques. This panel focused on translating what is typically categorized as a legal or interpretive theory into empirically observable hypotheses. As Professor Baude explained: \u201cOne of the main goals of our paper was to redirect attention to the empirical question: what actually is the official story of our law? If it is not originalism, what is it?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Professor Sachs, moderating, led off the panel discussion with a summary of the upcoming Essay. He explained that the Essay proceeds in three steps. First, Baude and Sachs detail why choosing a positive legal theory is justified. During the discussion, they suggested that their particular choice of H.L.A. Hart\u2019s positivism functions as an illustration\u2014a similar approach could be adopted for different positivist accounts without much difficulty.<\/p>\n<p>Second, the authors situate a broad swath of originalist theories\u2014generally those that embrace legal reasoning tracing back to the founding either by reference to the Constitution, to historical practice dating to the period, or to lawfully adopted changes enacted since then\u2014within Hart\u2019s positivism. Here, the authors argue that law is largely inferential in nature, which helps distinguish between official legal acts (for example, a judgment in a particular case) and official legal stories (i.e., official reasoning offered as a justification). The authors provide examples where official actors within the legal system may depart from the official, inferential, story of the law in order to facilitate all-too-human expediencies. Or, the authors suggest, given the deeply entangled nature of our law, official actors may remain ignorant in practice to a legal inference as a group, which explains how global departures from the official story may go unaddressed for periods of time. Ultimately, the official story consists of those rules by which the official actors within the legal system feel constrained.<\/p>\n<p>Finally, the authors proceed to the third step of their project: their empirical claims. Several observations\u2014including that judges tend to reject legal discontinuities from the founding and that there are not clear repudiations of originalism in Supreme Court case law\u2014lead the authors to argue that what makes originalism our law is that our legal practice displays a deep commitment to the original law.<\/p>\n<p>Professor Ramsay followed Professor Sachs and provided commentary. While appreciating the piece, his main inquiry focused on whether originalism encapsulated <em>all <\/em>of the official story of our law. Though he agreed that a large part of the law was empirically originalist, he suggested that there may be other portions of the official story: for example, when the Supreme Court uses nonoriginalist arguments to support legal decisions to members of the legal community who are not originalists.<\/p>\n<p>Professor Baude concluded the panel\u2019s introductory discussion by noting his appreciation for Professor Ramsay\u2019s suggestions and describing additional avenues the paper may explore in subsequent drafts.<\/p>\n<p>The panel closed with a lively discussion among the scholars in attendance. The conversation began with a colloquy focusing on the implications of choosing Hart\u2019s positivism as a jurisprudential frame. Eventually directing their attention to the piece\u2019s empirical focus, others explored potential difficulties in teasing apart the official story of the law from the official acts of its participants.<\/p>\n<p>Professors Baude and Sachs\u2019 full essay will be published in April 2019 in the <em>Northwestern University Law Review<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><em>Andrew Borrasso is a student at Northwestern Pritzker School of Law and Deputy Editor-in-Chief of the Northwestern University Law Review for the\u00a02019\u20132020 Editorial Board.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Photo by Anthony Garand on Unsplash Is originalism correct? What might make it so? Grounding Originalism, a forthcoming Essay by Professors William Baude and Stephen E. Sachs, tackles these questions by moving from legal theory to legal empirics in an effort to provide a coherent story of our law. On Friday afternoon, November 5, 2018, Professors Baude and Sachs were joined by Professor\u00a0Michael Ramsey in a panel discussion about Baude and Sachs\u2019s piece, Grounding Originalism&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"read-more\"><a class=\"btn btn-default\" href=\"https:\/\/blog.northwesternlaw.review\/?p=959\"> Read More<span class=\"screen-reader-text\">  Read More<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":73,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[14],"tags":[46,53,15],"class_list":["post-959","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-symposium","tag-originalism","tag-student","tag-symposium"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p9jSvD-ft","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":971,"url":"https:\/\/blog.northwesternlaw.review\/?p=971","url_meta":{"origin":959,"position":0},"title":"Moving the Great Debate on Originalism Theory Forward","author":"Emily McCormick","date":"April 19, 2019","format":false,"excerpt":"Photo by Giammarco Boscaro on Unsplash Georgetown Law\u2019s Professor Lawrence B. 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